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Showing posts with label Runner's Knee. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Runner's Knee. Show all posts

Tuesday, June 02, 2009

An enthusiastic Novice Runner with Runner's Knee (Chondromalacia)



I'm just turned 32, 5' 11", 178lbs. I played gaelic football (similar to Australian Rules) many years ago but never at a really competitive level and my main exercise through life has been at the Gym - my fitness therefore peaks and troughs considerably.

Photo: Grete Waitz - Almost unbeatable over from 5km-42km

Recently my brother in law enticed me to get involved in road running and on April 17th this year I took it up in earnest. At the beginning I struggled to manage 2 - 3 miles in a session but very quickly have found my fitness increase and can now run 10 miles (once a week), my normal run is around 5/6. All of this led me to needing some major goal or focus, because I know that using fitness alone as a goal will be a short lived thing. I had therefore decided to run a half marathon in september with the possibility of a, slow, attempt at the Dublin Marathon in October.

A recent Gait analysis showed that while my right foot was more or less normal, my left foot noticeably over pronated, and I bought the relevant pair of supportive runners. However, my last two runs (Saturday was circa 9 miles, and today was circa 11 miles) have left me in pain in my left knee. A dull ache below the knee cap which intensifies when I walk down stairs for example. On sturday it vanished after a nights sleep but today i fear differently.

The dilemma I face is that while I can comprehend the possibilty of over use - is this now destined to be a weakness which will prevent me from achieving that goal? (I only want to do one!! 10k races will satisfy me after that!)

I'm attending the physio on Thursday, but would be interested in another persons opinion based on experience. Is this generally a case of let it recover and take the right preventative actions or a sign that what I'm trying to do is just going to be beyond me.

John
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Gary responds:
(Please have a good read of the many other articles related to this injury by following the keywords at the base of this article and heeding the treatment and training advice).

John, I have been running competively for more than 40 years and my favourite race distances are between 5km and 15km. While I have run more than a dozen marathons, all sub 3 hours, the reason I am still running well is that I gave up the longer races about 20 years ago.

Short races, especially the off road ones, are thrilling ways to thrash the body without doing lasting damage. Marathons are the modern version of the Middle Ages past-time of Monks who travelled the countryside in public displays of whacking their heads with planks of wood.

It takes about 8-10 years of solid training and racing over short distances before one can undertake the modern equivalent of Mediaval flagellation (the Marathon) without risk of lasting harm.

And there is lasting harm like worn out hips and knees, shot tendons, gristled muscles and chronic fatigue. Running is like anything healthy: There is an optimum level and too much of a good thing can do more harm than having too little. The marathon is too much for all but a few freakish elite. These elite usually weigh less than 60kg and have at least 8 years hard training behind them.

John, I am not telling you to not do a half or full marathon; what I urge you to do is to plan a very gradual buildup in strength and fitness over several years. Muscles and cardiovascular responses to running are quick; whereas strengthening of bones, cartilages, tendons and ligaments are very slow - years in fact. So, stick to the short, sharp distances and never exceed your capacity to heal and grow stronger between runs. If you get the cart before the horse and run a marathon too early, your knees may never be quite the same again, compromising your plan to then stick to the shorter distances.

Photo: Olympian Steven Ferguson


Finally, John, make sure you have a few alternative exercise forms that you do each week: Cycling, swimming, canoeing for example. Have these and you will never need to visit the physio ever again. As soon as you feel a niggle - STOP and switch to your alternative exercise for a few days before carefully resuming the offending activity. This is the best physio.


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A Soccer Player with Chondromalacia Patella and Swelling in the Knee



I'm 36 years old. I was diagnosed with a condition called CONDROMALICIA PATELLA in 2005. I'm a soccer player and in 2004 I was no longer able to bend my left knee all the way. I was still able to play soccer with almost no problem. I'm very competitive and played soccer until about October 2008 before surgery. In early 2008 I started experiencing swelling in my knee. It was later diagnosed as a bacteria infection which required my knee to be scoped on November 26 and November 28, 2008. Ever since I have not been the same. I have been unable to play soccer because of the pain and the swelling. My X-RAY show very little cartilage and meniscus tear.

Photo: Alama Moller kicking for a goal

In your opinion, do you think I can play soccer again? I just started taking glucosamine and chondroitin MSM from Whole Food store. Should I keep taking it or do you have another suggestion? I saw your presentation but I don't know which product applies to me. Thank you so very much for your help.
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Gary responds:

The first action is to double check that the infection has not come back. That you have little cartilage left, you are going to have to look after that knee very carefully for the rest of your life. It is approoriate that you explore healthy outdoors exercise that you can do post soccer.

Have a look at this video and do the exercise every 2nd day.

It will help ensure your knees are properly aligned. You could add a pair of Formthotics Shock Stop inner soles to your shoes and boots.

Take the joint food you have three times daily for at least three months then reduce to 1-2 per day ongoing. The one I sell that is suitable is Balance Joint and Cartilage Repair for Athletes. It is possible that more surgery may be needed for the cartilage tear; but give the Joint Food several months unless your orthopaedic surgeon advises earlier intervention.

Avoid activities that cause pain and or swelling for as long as it takes - even if it runs into years. Your knees must last a lifetime so do not wreck them any more than already.

Take up other activities that do not stress the knee like aquajogging, swimming, upper body weights, boxing (non-combat, upper body work), canoeing and so on. You may find working out on a rowing ergometer is fine on the knee and a great cardio, thigh and butt workout! After my own knee surgery many years ago, I took up kayaking and have loved the sport ever since. Use your injury as the opportunity to broaden your sporting and fitness horizons.

Once you are able to run pain free, gradually introduce soccer skills like dribbling and easy kicking. Only return to competition when you feel confident you can do so without undue risk of reinjury.

Photo: Bruce Moller - Porirua Grand Traverse Race 2009

Above all else be patient! At the same time remain positive and the best way to do that is to engage in meaningful exercise that protects and nurtures your dodgy knee while it heals properly.
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Monday, February 09, 2009

Training for Rotorua but can't run because of sore knees


I'm 43 years old and was training for the Rotatrua Marathon (first one). Everythinbg was going fine, running approximately 45km a week,and then did a very stupid thing and increased up to 85-90 km a week. No problems aerobically, but after 10 days developed pain in my knees and haven't been able to run for 2 1/2 weeks. Symptoms suggest 'runners knee'. I have been taking joint factors 4500 for 6 days along with cod liver oil and magnesium tablets, also doing your foot strengthening exercises.

I am really frustrated as I am enjoying the running so much. Is there anything else you can recommend and typically how long is the recovery period?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks
Paul
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Gary
Paul, to be honest I am not keen on encouraging first time runners to go into marathons.  Marathons were traditionally the doamin of older competitive runners who were coming to the end of long years of big training miles and damn hard races over distances of 10 miles and less.

My sister, Lorraine, for example had been running big miles and hard, short races for over 10 years before she ran her first marathon.  I did the same, covering the distance in 2hr 37mins for the first time.  After 13 sub 3hr marathons, I gave up.  That was the best decision of my life.  Now 55 years old I am proud to say that I still have my knees.  Last season I ran comfortably under 20 minutes for 5 km.  If I had stuck to running marathons after I turned 30 years, I would not be running fast and free today.  I may not be running at all.

The point is that marathon training and marathon running is tough on the knees.  Knees are irreplaceable.  Do not bugger them up Paul.  Look after them.  Care for them as you would a child.  You can never fully replace your knees.

In the meantime, while you mull over the above, there are a number of measures you can take to care for your knees starting with ensuring your body is rich with all the nutrients for healing and for strong collagen and bones:
  • Complete an Active Elements Assessment
  • Ensure you boost your vitamin D levels are high by careful sunbathing
  • Continue to take daily joint food formulations
  • Ensure each meal has small amounts of quality proteins
  • Add fish oil, flax oil, evening primrose oil (no need for any more cod liver oil). Get these off my website store
  • Eat lots of bright coloured fruits, veges and berries and maybe a combined vitamin C supplement - the best one for strong tissue is Phytocare C-Max (refer my web store)
Exercise and Running
  • If an exercise, including running, hurts the knees then give it a break for as long as it takes to be pain free
  • Take up aquajogging twice a week
  • Get properly set up on a mountain style bike and ride it two or three times a week
  • Do only three runs per week spread over the week between the other exercises.  You may do daily early morning jogs of about 15-20 minutes if no knee pain
  • Only increase running distances by a few percent per week and never more no matter how good you may feel - do more of the other exercises instead
  • If you ever feel a running injury coming on - Stop running!  Go and do more of the other exercises and resume running once pain free
  • Seek out some short races of about 5km and do one each week or so but do not run them all hard out - play with them.  Join a club and run cross country over winter to harden the body and mind while not doing damage
  • Get 5 years of this kind of training and racing under your belt then dabble in a few long events, like a half marathon, then a marathon if you are still keen.
Two other things you can do
  • Get a pair or two of Formthotics Shock Stop inner soles off my website store and wear them in all your shoes, including your running shoes.
  • Get a weekly deep tissue massage of all the leg muscles with emphasis on the thighs and knee regions


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Monday, January 05, 2009

I am seeking advice about my Runner's Knee Injury

Hi Gary
I am a 46 year old male
I have flat feet that i have orthotics made for me
I run a average of 800 miles a year and only trouble I normally get is the odd calf strain
I can do a 10km in around 44mins a 1/2 in 1.40 and a full in justover 4 hours I do about 4 marathons ayear.
I have now got runners knee in the left knee and receiving physio with streching heat and electro pluse. I seem to manage a 5km run every second day and by the third run the inside leg just above knee seems to get tired and niggly.
Any ideas what else to do?
Is taping the way to go or is that masking the problem? I have been doing plenty of streching at home after run.
Regards James



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