Questions from a client about her nutritional programme

The following article is based on some excellent questions from a client.  So good that I want to share her questions and my answers with my readers:
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Gary,
Just a few questions...

Question:

Adrenal C, Adrenal Stress + Smoothie just seems like a BIG dose of vitamins and minerals. Why do I need all of this? I am already showing high levels of Vit B12 in my blood, so I'm struggling to see I need more of the same?

Answer:

The high levels are probably due to having taken supplementary B12.  The good news about producing such high levels in the blood test is this is evidence that the vitamins are being absorbed from the gut into the blood stream.  It may take several days for the levels to return to "normal" as the body either sucks the vitamins into cells and storage, or excretes any excess.  If you are having a blood test that includes vitamin and mineral levels, it would be prudent to avoid any dietary supplements for the best part of a week so that baseline levels in the blood can be determined.

Having said this, it is important to note that the blood is merely the body's delivery system to the cells and what appears in the blood may have no direct bearing on what is found in the cells themselves and it is what is going on the cells which is most important from the viewpoint of health and well-being.  The Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis is arguably the best and most practical tool for assessing what is going on at the cellular level in the body.

The actual doses being taken with the Super Smoothie and Dr Wilson's products is not high at all; but they do exceed official recommendations for daily intake.  This is intentional.  You are not taking mega doses of anything.

WHO and other agency guidelines for daily allowances are very misleading: Levels of recommended intake are based on what is necessary to avoid overt starvation-related disease such as rickets and pellagra.  What is needed for "optimum nutrition" may be completely different.  This may be especially the case if a person is under any kind of stress; be that from injury, illness, exercise or toxic exposures.  With ageing, needs increase - they sure don't decrease!  Also, there are individual differences: Some people naturally need a lot more than others.  Again the Hair Tissue test is one of the best tools for determining individual needs.

Below is an article by Dr James Wilson, which explains the use of vitamins and minerals for adrenal and thyroid support.  Dr Wilson is arguably the World's leading authority on adrenal, thyroid and other glandular disorders:

Adrenal Fatigue Vitamins by Gary Moller

Question:

I have also read that if you take for too long that the result can be permanent depression of adrenal function. How do we know when the “job is done” and the supplements are no longer needed?

 Answer:

Taking vitamins and minerals, including glandular extracts (must be in a form that has ALL hormone residues removed) will not suppress adrenal function.  At least 80% of the people I test require MORE adrenal and thyroid support, not LESS.

Hormone-based drugs like Cortisone and Prednisone and thyroxine will definitely suppress adrenal and thyroid function and will risk long term dependency.  In fact, the last course by Dr James Wilson that I attended was on the subject of how to safely wean a patient off dependency on Prednisone and cortisone hormones.  Its a huge problem and few medical practitioners know how to do it safely and effectively.  Its a huge problem.

Here is feedback from one of my clients about his struggles with fibromyalgia and dependency on Prednisone:
http://blog.garymoller.com/2013/02/feedback-from-person-who-has-been.html

Question:

How is it that glandular extracts taken by mouth don't just get broken down and absorbed as protein etc, as if I was consuming food?

 Answer:

Glandular extracts are a fascinating and exciting form of therapy and it works.  I'll use myself as an example:
Around about 1990, I was not well and underwent a 24 hour collection of urinary cortisol.  The result was dangerously low cortisol levels, bordering on Addisons.  My Dr wanted me to commence a course of Prednisone immediately.  I said, "leave it with me a few weeks, please".  I located some adrenal glandular extracts and began taking them.  The improvement in symptoms were noticed within a few days.  A followup unrinary cortisol test revealed cortisol levels close to "normal".  My Dr was astonished with the turnaround.  I did not tell him what I had done (should have; but I was part of the "medical system" at the time and taking of natural products was actively discouraged and I could not be seen to be a traitor within!).

Glandular extracts were struggling way back then due to hostility from mainstream medicine, sadly.  With the outbreak of Mad Cow disease in the UK and elsewhere, glandular extracts disappeared entirely off the market.  I understand that Dr Wilson is one of the only sources of glandular extracts nowadays and his are sourced from porcine sources - not bovine.  One very important point about glandular extracts is they must have all hormones removed.

Yes, digestion will break the glandular extracts down to their base nutrients for absorption across the intestinal wall.  The glands will then uptake what is needed from the circulating nutrients to repair and nourish as required.

The following PDF is from Dr Wilson and explains in more detail questions about the use of glandular extrtacts.

Adrenal Rebuilder - Frequently Asked Questions - Doctor Wilson's Original Formulations

Question:

The quantities Dr Wilson recommends for these products seems to be 4 or more tablets a day. If I only take 1-2/day will results just be slower?

Answer:

This is always a difficult one:  The cost of taking lots and lots of pills can be off-putting and some people are simply freaked out by the prospect of taking all hose pills!  I always work on the motto: "Start Low - Go Slow" rather than going for the Big Hit.

In your case, you have what appears to be a good diet and you have been taking additional vitamins and minerals for several months, so we are not starting from scratch.  What your Hair Tissue tests indicate is a consistent pattern of adrenal fatigue and thyroid issues.  So it is time for a switch in emphaisis, zeroing in on adrenal and thyroid support.

It may be slower but I think it is best to take one's time, gently nudging the body in the right direction.  Bear in mind, as well, that the Super Smoothie has many of the ingredients in Dr Wilson's products, so I think we are fine.  Also, you are not a large person, although very active (active people generally have higher nutrient needs).

When do we know the job is done?  The best measure will  be the Hair Tissue test, plus you reporting near or full resolution of signs and symptoms of ill health and feeling full of energy.

 Question:

I can't find out any information on Thyro-Mend which I assume is for thyroid support. What is it? What is it's effect?

Answer:

I have only had this product since the beginning of the year and it plugs a gap in my prescribing wonderfully.  I find it works well with Dr Wilson's adrenal products.  The feedback, to date, has been exciting, especially with athletes who have shown physical improvements in performance.  The stop watch and the weights lifted do not lie.

Here is detailed information about Thyro-Mend:

Douglas Thyromend by Gary Moller

 Question:

Do we still need extra magnesium and iodine solution in our smoothie?

Answer:

The answer is "No!"  The adrenal products and Thyro-Mend have it all covered.  But do not throw these away: Add a small single dose per day to your smoothies until what remains is finished.

 Question:

Where does Candida fit into all of this as after the 2nd hair analysis this was where the focus turned.

Answer:

Sticking to a full-on candida elimination diet is tough to stick to for most people.  I think you have gone hard out for long enough on candida and it is now time to change the emphasis, while - of course - not letting off on dealing with candida.  Please continue to follow a "candida diet" but you can relax a little if you like.  Continue to take a daily probiotic.  Candida is closely associated with adrenal and thyroid problems and related issues such as oestrogen dominance in women which is now a consistent and persistent feature in your Hair Tissue tests.  The adjusted treatment regime that you are now doing definitely continues to address any ongoing issues that may be related to candida and fungal infections.

Healthy adrenals and thyroid are central to having a strong immune system in place and it is your immune system that will ultimately clear you of infection once and for all.  Keep a close eye on signs of candida such as the spit test.  There should be a gradual improvement.

I trust I have answered your questions sufficiently?  And, thank you for asking.

Gary

There is not even one death from vitamins over the last 28 years

There is not even one death from vitamins over the last 28 years. [1] We are a nation of sick, undernourished, and overmedicated people. Half the population is on prescription drugs. [2] Pharmaceuticals, taken as directed, kill over 100,000 per year just in the US. [3] Antibiotics cause 700,000 emergency room visits per year, just in the US. [3] Modern drug-and-cut medicine is at least the third leading cause of death in the USA. Some estimates place medicine as the number one cause of death. [3] Over 1.5 million Americans are injured every year by drug errors in hospitals, doctors' offices, and nursing homes. [3] If in a hospital, a patient can expect at least one medication error every single day. [3]

Vitamins are not the problem; they are the solution. Taking supplemental B-vitamins, vitamin E and vitamin D each individually reduces lung cancer by 50%. [4-7] Vitamin C stops cancer more effectively than chemotherapy. [8-10] HIV-positive persons taking vitamins are 50% less likely to develop AIDS. [11] And if they do, AIDS patients taking supplements have a 27% lower death rate. [3]

References:

1. No Deaths from Vitamins: America's Largest Database Confirms Supplement Safety.http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v07n16.shtml

2. Way Too Many Prescriptions http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n07.shtml

3. How to Make People Believe Any Anti-Vitamin Scarehttp://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v07n12.shtml

4. Vitamins Decrease Lung Cancer Risk by 50%http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v07n13.shtml

5. Vitamin E Prevents Lung Cancer http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n18.shtml

6. Vitamin B6 Reduces Colon Cancer http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n16.shtml

7. Vitamin D Stops Cancer; Cuts Risk In Halfhttp://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n11.shtml

8. Vitamin C Slows Cancer Down and, Doctors Say, Can Reverse It as Wellhttp://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n19.shtml

9. Intravenous Vitamin C as Cancer Therapy: Free Access to Twenty-One Expert Video Lectures Onlinehttp://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v07n03.shtml

10. High-Dose Vitamin C Therapy Proven Effectivehttp://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v06n01.shtml

11. Nutritional Supplements Fight AIDS http://www.doctoryourself.com/vitamins_aids.html

For further reading:

Doctors Say Vitamins are Safe and Effective.http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v08n09.shtml

Resources on Nutritional Therapeutics: Orthomolecular, Online . . . and Free of Chargehttp://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v06n27.shtml

How Doctors Use (Or Should Use) Vitamin Therapyhttp://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v06n25.shtml

Nutritional Medicine is Orthomolecular Medicine

Orthomolecular medicine uses safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more information: http://www.orthomolecular.org

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Updated: Are the vitamins you're taking actually making you healthier?

"Are the vitamins you're taking actually making

you healthier? Inside New Zealand: Are Vitamins Killing You?, screening on Wednesday, October 28th at 9:30pm on 3, explores this question by making eight volunteers - mostly high vitamins consumers - go cold turkey for six weeks.

Many New Zealanders believe the way to good health and longer life is through the daily use of vitamin supplements. But not everyone agrees. Professor Rod Jackson of Auckland University says the scientific evidence is clear - people who pop vitamin pills die younger.

"The best evidence is a review of over 60 randomised trials of almost a quarter of a million people worldwide - and the evidence is that those who take vitamins have an increased risk of death compared to those who don't," Professor Jackson explains."

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Gary Moller comments:

I totally agree that taking megadoses ofvitamins; especially where the individual need is not established is wrong and has the potential to cause illness.

However: The study Professor Rod Jackson refers to is flawed and since been widely discredited.

"The problem is that this JAMA article was a flawed hatchet job not worth the paper it was written on. Out of 748 vitamin studies, the researchers selected only 67 focusing on high dose synthetic vitamins, and excluded all the others showing benefit. This called selective sampling."

Here is the best explanation I have read of why this study is rubbish :

http://jeffreydach.com/2007/05/05/vitaminsjeffrey-dachdrdach.aspx.

And here is the same author, Dr Dach, explaining Natural Medicine 101:

http://jeffreydach.com/2009/02/11/natural-medicine-101-by-jeffrey-dach-md.aspx

Vitamins, minerals, amino acids, fatty acids and more are essential for life, including preventing and combating disease. Where there is an identified deficiency, then supplementing with those items that are deficient to bring these levels to their optimum balance is totally justified.

However; taking additional vitamins and minerals where no deficiency is identified is not justified and may contribute to relative imbalances alongside other nutrients.

I hope that Professor Jackson and other experts who are going to be in the series explain this and do not use the series as little more than an opportunity to bag the natural health industry. I hope they explain that vitamins and minerals do promote good health, combat disease and prolong life and its quality - where their need is identified.

I hope they explain there is a health difference between many natural vitamins and their synthetic counterparts. I do agree that megadosing on any vitamin where there is no need is not a healthy practice; especially if the vitamins are synthetic.

I dispense vitamins and minerals to promote health and well-being but do so on the basis of evidence of need. The most robust forensic tool is the Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis (HTMA) for determining what foods to favour, those to avoid and, also, which vitamins and minerals to take and which to avoid. This can be ordered through me and I will send you details.

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28th October 2009

Well, the programme aired last night. I was very disappointed with many aspects of it. To view the programme in full, please click here and please read the comments below about the programme.

There was fearmongering by calling vitamins dangerous. So, taking vitamins is as dangerous as passive smoking! You have to be kidding! There has not been a single death in New Zealand from vitamin overdose.

There was no distinction made of the differences between synthetic vitamins and their natural counterparts. They did not tell us that we can safely prescribe natural dietary beta-carotene which is a powerful anti-oxidant that also provides provitamin A that is converted into vitamin A in the body as required.

They did not help the subjects in the programme other than to tell them not to take vitamins and to eat a balanced diet. It was obvious from the body language of the participants that most of them were unconvinced. The least the two medical experts could have done is to use their access to testing services and nutritional expertise to assist them with working out the most proactive nutrition programme for each individual's actual needs.

Sadly, both of the experts, including the epidemiologist Professor Jackson, lacked the most essential ingredient: Training in Human Nutrition, beyond the little that is taught while at Medical School. What is formally learned is heavily influenced by the most influential "other" in medicine - the pharmaceutical industry which would love to see vitamins dispensed by prescription only. Was this the real purpose of the programme: A cynical softening up of the public for the crushing of the Natural Health industry? I think that may be going too far; but there are people on both sides of the argument who sincerely think this is happening!

All-in-all, the programme was rubbish.

I would much rather have seen a programme that does some proper testing, including blood tests and a HTMA for:

• An osteoporotic woman, then weans her off her osteoporosis drugs, then follows her progress on a tailored natural health intervention.
• A middle age man with high cholesterol, weans him off his drugs and sets about correcting his health issues with the help of natural therapies.

We could do the same for say, a child with ADD or autism. Or how about attempting to reverse Type II diabetes?

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